Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

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Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by sheerkohf » 24 Nov 2014, 16:06

Hi Friends ! I have some issues with SI hair ! The render seems strange !
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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by FXDude » 24 Nov 2014, 16:29

Is this your first or one of your first tries?

In which case I would simply say - try harder ;)

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by sheerkohf » 24 Nov 2014, 16:34

Thanks Friend ! I shall keep trying ! I hope to get back soon with better hair (fur) !

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by Hirazi Blue » 24 Nov 2014, 16:45

FXDude wrote:Is this your first or one of your first tries?

In which case I would simply say - try harder ;)
If you put it like that, this doesn't necessarily sound very nice. :-ss

@sheerkohf - From that one image it is very hard (for me) to figure out what you were trying to achieve.
Thus it is very hard to figure out what can/should be improved upon. I guess a bit more information is wanted...
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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by sheerkohf » 24 Nov 2014, 16:52

Thanks Hirazi Sir ! I was actually trying to get some realism into the creature by getting some nice hair (fur) on the body !

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by Hirazi Blue » 24 Nov 2014, 17:06

Well, it isn't that easy, as you have found out yourself as well...
Getting fur in all the right places isn't the problem, getting it to look just right can be a pain.
Could you show us more of your settings and general setup (screenshots, not rendered images)?
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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by FXDude » 24 Nov 2014, 17:07

Hi Sorry, but if I suggested "try harder" *if it was a first try* , it's that we can't really say anything useful or specific on very-very early WIP's, other than something like it needing more time spent on it.

And I suspected it being an early WIP as we saw the untextured version just very recently.

But I agree that I might have said what I just said, instead of something simplistic (even with a strategically placed smiley)

And I think he understood (and didn't take it the wrong way :] )

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by sheerkohf » 24 Nov 2014, 17:24

Here are the two screenshots for the general and the effects tab for Hair !
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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by FXDude » 24 Nov 2014, 17:37

Perhaps starting by making them a bit longer and denser so we can see a bit more of it in the render?

And it would make it easier to see what can be changed to make it better,
otherwise it's a good start.

You might also want to take a look at Pooby's fuzz!

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by FXDude » 24 Nov 2014, 17:52

Pooby's Fuzz Which can be found on RRay, or here; https://vimeo.com/80382153

Good Luck, and do let us see results!

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by Superpositivo » 24 Nov 2014, 18:48

Hi.

The first thing I suggest is to grow the hair with a texture colors. It helps (and I'd say it's quite necessary most of the times) in giving more differentiation on the hair.


- Apply hair and give an initial comb.
- Apply a texture map on your model (> Property > Textur Map > assign the UV already created on the model.
- In the Hair Module go on "Transfer Map". It will prompt you to pick the texture map just assigned. Open the Explorer, expand your model and select TEXTURE MAP.
- Now, in the hair shader assign the texture you prefer (usually the one you used for the skin, but it's not a dogma at all). Having hair color with the same color of the texture pattern makes it more natural, but you can use a texture for the hair completely different from the skin.
This will already make something to your hair and appearance.


After that, I see that you didn't use any density or cut map. They are quite vital. Because they can regulate densitity and scale of your hair in parts where they are needed shorter and fewer (I didn't use them in this example).
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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by Superpositivo » 24 Nov 2014, 18:55

Of course the render engine counts a lot.

I wanted, about a year ago, to replicate Ted, more or less, and I had the chance to try Arnold. Actually I didn't have to do anything. Just Hair Shader, and that's it (I mean, I'm not an Arnold expert).

It was just a test and it's not the best Ted you can see, but it worked soon in Arnold, where with M.R. was trickier and slower (1 million of hairs).
All the rest is just Softimage and Hair.
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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by FXDude » 24 Nov 2014, 19:10

That's neat superpositivo!

And thanks for those also neat hair startoff suggestions!

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by sheerkohf » 25 Nov 2014, 01:58

Thanks Pal ! Thanks for the help ! I shall try the new fur system and get back soon !

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by sheerkohf » 25 Nov 2014, 02:01

Thanks Superpositivo Sir ! That was GREAT EXTENSIVE HELP ! I shall try the methods you mentioned !

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Re: Hair (fur) Issue (Ibex updated ) !

Post by sheerkohf » 25 Nov 2014, 16:04

Here is another try !
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