Gravity VFX Supe: US Pros Not Young Or Hungry Enough

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Gravity VFX Supe: US Pros Not Young Or Hungry Enough

Post by MauricioPC » 15 Feb 2014, 11:05

What?!

http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2014/02 ... o-compete/

I do hope this guy was misquoted or else, he's an idiot.

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Re: Gravity VFX Supe: US Pros Not Young Or Hungry Enough

Post by Hirazi Blue » 15 Feb 2014, 13:19

I don’t think he’s been misquoted and I don’t think he’s an idiot either, frankly. I am not a position to judge if he is wrong or right, but vfxsoldier running this story and the tone in which its set at least shows that the internal “VFX wars” (to coin a phrase) are far from over.
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Re: Gravity VFX Supe: US Pros Not Young Or Hungry Enough

Post by MauricioPC » 15 Feb 2014, 13:33

I've meet lots of people who have to keep moving from place to place to continue working. And I think he's an idiot because if his industry needs subsidies to compete for work, his phrase don't explain nothing.

Just my opinion. It's because of people like him that I'm more interested today in working on my one, creating my own company if possible than work for people like him.

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Re: Gravity VFX Supe: US Pros Not Young Or Hungry Enough

Post by Bellsey » 15 Feb 2014, 15:40

I think what Tim was saying is that the UK industry has learned to adapt and change, in order to be competitive and get to where it is now. The Harry Potter series has long been attributed to help forge the UK VFX industry into what it is today, but is wasn't all plain sailing. Rowling herself had to put her foot her down to insist on UK filming and a UK/Irish cast, to maintain the culture of the books. (Of course subsides can help, but 25% of the films costs has to be in the UK in order to qualify)

Despite the UK location, most of the shots from the first movie were done by stateside by ILM and Imageworks, which was understandable at that time. The UK companies perhaps couldn't quite scale up enough at that time, but by the second movie things had balanced out alot more to the UK companies, and by the third UK VFX accounted for the majority of the shots.
Also, not long after HP CoS, Mill Film closed, which shocked alot of people, as they hadn't long won their oscar for Gladiator. But I think it showed people just how tight the business could be and it was important to watch the costs. The UK companies seemed to adapt very well after that, which I think was what was being eluded too.

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Re: Gravity VFX Supe: US Pros Not Young Or Hungry Enough

Post by MauricioPC » 15 Feb 2014, 15:51

Yeah, you may be correct. But what I've being reading is of low salaries and not paid overtime. Now, that could be only rumors, but I've seen people who are great artists complaining of such.

I'm not from the film industry, but I've worked in commercials here and it's the same. Few gain a lot and a lot gain a few. That's OK, that's the way that the business work. But what you can't have is a person in a better position, getting paid better than the artists who do the work for him vangloriating about why his boys are cooler, smarter than other.

For me he's still a idiot. It's like Claudio Miranda only acknowledging himself for the visuals of the film he won a Oscar for.

But I can agree in disagree.

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Re: Gravity VFX Supe: US Pros Not Young Or Hungry Enough

Post by Bellsey » 16 Feb 2014, 23:22

I've been reading the many comments following the original VFX soldier and I find the vitriol aimed at Tim to be disgraceful and totally uncalled for.
(people are entitled to their opinions, but name calling isn't cool.)

There's been too many half baked opinions and venting being put out there, without any consideration for the context and facts. Tim himself as replied and said that his was "seriously misrepresented". The original article has also been edited and some comments removed.

Tonight, Tim, together with Chris Lawrence, David Shirk, Neil Corbould, and Nikki Penny won the Bafta award for visual effects. A feat I hope they repeat at the upcoming oscars.

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Re: Gravity VFX Supe: US Pros Not Young Or Hungry Enough

Post by MauricioPC » 16 Feb 2014, 23:27

Like I said, I had hopes he was misinterpreted. If that is so, great.

As for the prizes, I have a different favorite but probably Gravity will win.