need secondary pivot center

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hardgore
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need secondary pivot center

Post by hardgore » 16 Apr 2013, 16:47

to snap rotation and scale

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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by EricTRocks » 16 Apr 2013, 20:19

This post needs to be a lot more direct and explained thoroughly or I'm inclined to remove it.
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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by hardgore » 17 Apr 2013, 01:02

EricTRocks wrote:This post needs to be a lot more direct and explained thoroughly or I'm inclined to remove it.
when put secondary pivot center thing in blender
rotation and scale gizmo fit between the pivots
allows snap the direction and size
just by adding secondary pivot thing allows 3 points transform like rhino
start and end and destination

modo have similar thing called planar rotate snap and scale absolute
but very uncomfortable
because have to setup the extra 2 points every time
also annoying to hotkey them all

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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by sonictk » 17 Apr 2013, 10:11

If I understand you right
You should take a look
At using reference planes

Oh sorry, I thought we were typing in haikus now :P

If you mean 3-point orient like how in Rhino you can make use of such a feature to align objects together, here's how you can do it in XSI quickly:

1. Select the object you want to align.
2. Switch to a manipulator mode (SRT)
3. Click on Ref in your Transform MCP, choose Pick point/edge/polygon reference. (usually I use poly, but if you REALLY want 3 point orient go with point)
4. Pick the object, then the component you want to align to.
5. Once that's done, select your original object, switch to Ref coordinate system, and zero out all the values.
6. Both your objects should now be aligned in SRT.

Hope that helps! :)

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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by Lord Futzi Voldemort » 17 Apr 2013, 11:36

you can also use the "alt" key to place or snap a temporary pivot to wherever you want. It will be reset after deselection the object.
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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by hardgore » 17 Apr 2013, 15:33

too sad

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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by rray » 17 Apr 2013, 15:56

Rotation snapping would be indeed useful
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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by origin » 17 Apr 2013, 18:51

I will probably do 3 point rotation tool this month since i need it for modeling

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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by rray » 18 Apr 2013, 11:51

That sounds like an awesome tool.
What I'd find awesome too is if Autodesk would be to release all internal tools as SDK samples like they did with the add smooth edge loop.
We could easily customize them to our needs without having to much dev work for rewriting them from scratch.
The reason I'd like that is because there are some issues in some of them that are causing real pain when bumping into them a million times over.
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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by hardgore » 18 Apr 2013, 20:00

the secondary point need to be hotkeyable
and work with snap just like temporary pivot center does
also support local and global things
you know better

please dont forget scale tool
i dont wanna drag all the vertices to fit cylinder
or remove and bridge to mass up with UV

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Re: need secondary pivot center

Post by dwigfor » 18 Apr 2013, 23:37

For scaling, have you seen this script? https://www.si-community.com/forum/v ... =29&t=2311

Haven't seen myara on here in a while.. Hopefully he's doing good and hasn't abandoned us. I miss reading his insights.