Thank you. I am so glad the Softimage team understands that.Iray is certainly an exciting technology, but personally I don't think it would really benefit Softimage (or Maya) customers right now, in this release. Also we have to ensure that customers can actually work with and use the technology, its no good to anyone to crowbar a feature in with bad and buggy implementation.
sourceThe case of the missing Lagoa
Why aren’t Lagoa and Matchmover mentioned on the Softimage SAP page? Is this omission ominous?
If you ask me, most likely that copy was written when the legal stuff was still being ironed out. I don’t think the omission means anything. You’ll notice that Lagoa is still mentioned on the AREA and on the Autodesk youtube channel (where you can see all the 2011 SAP feature videos).
But Lagoa and Matchmover are still in at the time of this posting. Since it hasn’t been released, there’s always some possibility something could happen, but right now, all I know is that they are still in.
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izze wrote:Thank you. I am so glad the Softimage team understands that.Iray is certainly an exciting technology, but personally I don't think it would really benefit Softimage (or Maya) customers right now, in this release. Also we have to ensure that customers can actually work with and use the technology, its no good to anyone to crowbar a feature in with bad and buggy implementation.
Looking forward to the update!
I was the one who mentioned iRay and a unit of measure earlier...I wasn't referring to this release persay, but in the near future - i.e. like 2012 hopefully..then that would be a nice addition. To me, the end result is what I get paid by. While Max currently has iRay, there is now a major difference between Apps in terms of overall rendering time and quality/accuracy of renders. I think it is definitely something that needs to be looked at, and I did request it to Autodesk via their request page multiple times. While Lagoa is awesome and so is ICE, for me, in its current stage it has limited actual real-world use aside from maybe VFX or personal curiosity - I guess the future will tell what will come of its uses. Now rendering, everyone needs that more-or-less in one way or another. I am not trying to down-play Lagoa or ICE at all, sans an arguement, I am just saying that negelecting certain extremely important features even that they are being requested multiple times over (iRay is a newer request, but an option for "unit of measure" has been asked for years and years now), should be looked at soon. I definitely agree I dont want things to be rushed to squeeze them into a release, but even in Mental Ray 3.8 some features were not implemented correctly, and still not even touched in this release...that would have been a little nicer to have seen.Bellsey wrote:izze wrote:Thank you. I am so glad the Softimage team understands that.Iray is certainly an exciting technology, but personally I don't think it would really benefit Softimage (or Maya) customers right now, in this release. Also we have to ensure that customers can actually work with and use the technology, its no good to anyone to crowbar a feature in with bad and buggy implementation.
Looking forward to the update!
cool, but I just wanted to point out that I wasn't suggesting that iRay was bad or buggy, far from it. Watching one of my Max collegues use it, it looks great. I just noticed how what I said, might have come across like that though, doh!
What I was meaning was that, we'd always want to make sure that any feature implementation is right and our customers can get the most out of it. Although many of our apps share similar features, they also have to be consistent with the UI/workflow of the relevent package as well.
;)In this on-demand session, see how the advanced ICE framework can be utilized to enhance CG pipelines by allowing artists to develop complex particle systems with this visual system. Go in depth with the Lagoa multiphysics toolset, as offered to subscription customers in the latest Autodesk® Softimage® advantage pack, and witness how astounding physics systems can be developed and iterated interactively.
) If your Subscription expires within a month of the SAP release, you’ll still be able to download the SAP.
hehe, I know. It's me whose doing the webcast. I've also done the Mudbox one as well.Hirazi Blue wrote:One more, concerning the "Lagoa-fear":
Just a quote from an "unrelated" source -
Click on "On-Demand Webcasts" > "Autodesk Softimage" to open up the following:;)In this on-demand session, see how the advanced ICE framework can be utilized to enhance CG pipelines by allowing artists to develop complex particle systems with this visual system. Go in depth with the Lagoa multiphysics toolset, as offered to subscription customers in the latest Autodesk® Softimage® advantage pack, and witness how astounding physics systems can be developed and iterated interactively.
)sourceMy Lagoa sense is tingling...
Yep, true, I´m somewhat dissapointed. Bur then again, I don´t have to buy rf ;) , I even don´t have to leave the application.Ramon wrote:very very slow liquid simulation! RF5 much faster
, who would have thought a dedicated application like RealFlow, 
