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Re: Yeah!! Hail to Softimage, winner of three awards at VES ...

Post by angus_davidson » 18 Feb 2014, 19:29

csaez wrote:
Eugen wrote:Posted a few things there, Nurbs (of course), and selection improvements. Altough for my workflow this makes perfect sense, those are not particularly fashionable wishes, so there was little response by other voters.
But then, even the top listed wish - native PyQt - doesn't seem to be important enough.
I guess my point is that there's still some interest for mental ray integration/fixes, I was not saying ADSK should implement absolutely everything on that list in order of popularity.
Talking about PyQt... is there some technical reason why this still is not introduced? After all, there's Steven Caron's addon, as a proof of concept.
AFAIK: PyQt license, no linux port, some technical difficulties with the PySide implementation.
I must admit that would be great. Having offended Steve earlier this year over the whole ease of installation of PyQt is not something I enjoyed as he has given a great deal to the Softimage community.
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Re: Yeah!! Hail to Softimage, winner of three awards at VES ...

Post by Bullit » 18 Feb 2014, 22:25

A good part of the Softimage user-VIPs is on the mailing list regularly. They do complain, but politics says ICE
First. Improvements in ICE have been pitiful. Even today there isn't an official sound node for example while 3DsMax Particle Flow can access sound.
What we have is thanks to Claude Veervoot, Face and i think another user.

Second, it is false. The biggest investment in last 2 releases were CrowdFX and Viewport HQV. So one ICE , another non ICE.

The fact that Viewport HQV failed spectacularly doesn't change that fact. I wonder what they will do in it for 2015...

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Post by MauricioPC » 18 Feb 2014, 22:39

Bullit wrote:
A good part of the Softimage user-VIPs is on the mailing list regularly. They do complain, but politics says ICE
First. Improvements in ICE have been pitiful. Even today there isn't an official sound node for example while 3DsMax Particle Flow can access sound.
What we have is thanks to Claude Veervoot, Face and i think another user.

Second, it is false. The biggest investment in last 2 releases were CrowdFX and Viewport HQV. So one ICE , another non ICE.

The fact that Viewport HQV failed spectacularly doesn't change that fact. I wonder what they will do in it for 2015...
Man ... viewport HQV is a mtf! It always freezes Softimage for me. I hate that thing.


CrowdFX is cool ... Maybe next month it'll begin the sneak-peaks?

P.S.: Just saw a short webinar from NKI (France) about their work. All 3ds Max, but amazing.



This one is so badass.

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Post by Eugen » 18 Feb 2014, 23:01

HQV viewport... never used it. Not missing much - when I need to see the outcome, I use the RR.

But yeah, however you turn it, we feel the scarce dev resources.
And this is not an illusion of course - when an application matures, it's normal to see 'growth' slow down, when in fact it's still at the same rate. Imagine a ball with it's volume growing by the same absolute amount per time unit... But the rate we see Softimage 'grow' dropped way below the initial rate.

What can we do, that little self-help group that we have become? Live with compromises. But who doesn't, right?

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Post by Bullit » 19 Feb 2014, 00:28

We can help each other continuing to talk about and helping when requested.

We also can learn how to code and be little Motozoids :))

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Post by MauricioPC » 19 Feb 2014, 01:12

Don't know if you guys saw it ... but there's even a little provocation for AD suites ... lol.




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Re: Yeah!! Hail to Softimage, winner of three awards at VES ...

Post by MauricioPC » 25 Feb 2014, 14:57

MauricioPC wrote:Gotta love the internet ... rumors of a leaked beta. A guy saying that Softimage 2015 has progressive rendering now. And apparently Maya with BiFrost.

I couldn't find anything but I got curious. :D

If that's truth, I may have faith in Softimage getting improved! They wouldn't invest on something they would kill. Let's hope the rumors are correct.
Somebody leaked some videos of Maya and 3ds Max.
http://www.cgrecord.net/2014/02/autodes ... video.html

I google it and found some people who have downloaded this betas and one guy said this about Softimage 2015.
new features i found so far..

-progressive render
-exposure controls in render region and preview
-alembic
-ICE attribute editor
And some other posted this screenshot ...

P.S.: If it's not legal to post, please remove it Hirazi. Since I found on this forum, I thought it could be ok. Cheers.
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Post by angus_davidson » 25 Feb 2014, 15:23

if nothing else the wording on the image says it all.

Ice and Face robot. They must have done a lot of work on facerobot to make it billable again.

I am cheerful about alembic being in ;)
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Post by Helli » 25 Feb 2014, 15:32

Hmm actually.

- Progressive rendering is worthless cause we still talk about Mentalray which no one (?) is using anymore. Imho in production 90% are using Arnold or Vray.

- Alembic is nice but was allready there if needed.

-exposure controls in render region and preview
Hum ? Thats like a gimic ;)

-ICE attribute editor
No idea what that could be, could be the only thing worth it.


But I don't want to be the pesemistic guy bashing. So lets just wait and see.
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Re: Yeah!! Hail to Softimage, winner of three awards at VES ...

Post by csaez » 25 Feb 2014, 15:41

@MauricioPC
Do you really think that re-posting leaked info you are somehow contributing to something? 8-|

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Post by Helli » 25 Feb 2014, 15:49

sry forget that one ;)

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Post by angus_davidson » 25 Feb 2014, 15:58

its likely the actual things will be released soon. last year it took about 3 weeks from the big leaks to the products arriving.

On the aside I still dont like the new icons. While the parrot etc was artistically beautiful the new icons are lifeless and dull. I have given them a year Graham to allow them to grow on me ;) Admittedly the softimage one is better then the Maya/Mudbox/Motionbuilder ones ;)
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Re: Yeah!! Hail to Softimage, winner of three awards at VES ...

Post by MauricioPC » 25 Feb 2014, 16:10

csaez wrote:@MauricioPC
Do you really think that re-posting leaked info you are somehow contributing to something? 8-|
Dont know how to answer that. When were the last time you heard something about Softimage? For me, any news is good news. I dont think posting this could affect in any way since its out there.

But hey, maybe you dont like Snowden also.

For me it was good as it reassured me that I did the right thing switching softwares. If nothing changed, theres no why for me to waste more time on it.

And, as I said, if Hizari or other moderator thinks its not good to post this, they can delete it.

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Re: Yeah!! Hail to Softimage, winner of three awards at VES ...

Post by Nizar » 25 Feb 2014, 17:52

The image is probably a fake, where is Compositor (toxik)?

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Post by angus_davidson » 25 Feb 2014, 18:20

Nizar wrote:The image is probably a fake, where is Compositor (toxik)?
In the bin where it belongs ;) hehe actually that is a valid point. maybe they worked on Illusion again so Compositor isnt needed anymore ;)
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Re: Yeah!! Hail to Softimage, winner of three awards at VES ...

Post by Hirazi Blue » 25 Feb 2014, 18:35

I wouldn't jump to (too optimistic?) conclusions just yet. The absence of Composite might merely mean that AD has relegated it to a separate tab of optional installs...
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