90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by luceric » 05 Nov 2012, 15:14

the EU is the EU, not just any kind of trade agreement. Apple even got sued for trying to set different itunes prices in different EU region, which is illegal

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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by Letterbox » 05 Nov 2012, 17:39

luceric wrote:the EU is the EU, not just any kind of trade agreement. Apple even got sued for trying to set different itunes prices in different EU region, which is illegal
trying to K.I.S. it, as the EU is a lot more complicated than most think, eg look up European Economic Area and look at all the treaty's signed from Rome to Lisbon. Keeps the lawyers happy. In fact before anyone purchases, or if they have any questions about EULA's etc, I'd suggest they talk a lawyer or a government run legal assistance scheme. Rather than taking anyone's advice or opinion on any forum.


But I'd rather focus on what people think about the $199 deal.

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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by Bullit » 06 Nov 2012, 06:42

EU is discretionary - that's the results of infinite red tape, we are in a society were the rule books have no end in sight then add open ended written laws and conflicting rules and a Kafkian process ensues. - so everyone - people and companies- committed an illegality somewhere, sometime.
To show the EU is the boss - and get money- they pick juicy targets. Some of the cases are right others are clearly harassment for monetary extortion.

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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by Hirazi Blue » 06 Nov 2012, 08:42

That's sort of a cynical view (by which I do not mean that it's completely untrue, BTW). In the specific case of the Autodesk EULA and its interpretation of the European Union and the European Free Trade Association as one "territory", there can hardly be any confusion (and its not the result of an endless amount of red tape), as the so-called "four freedoms" (the free movement of goods, capital, services, and people) are fundamental to the whole concept of having an internal market (the true basis of the whole EU concept) in the first place and are among the very few things the countries of the European Union actually seem to agree upon.
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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by Letterbox » 06 Nov 2012, 08:57

Bullit wrote:EU is discretionary - that's the results of infinite red tape, we are in a society were the rule books have no end in sight then add open ended written laws and conflicting rules and a Kafkian process ensues. - so everyone - people and companies- committed an illegality somewhere, sometime.
To show the EU is the boss - and get money- they pick juicy targets. Some of the cases are right others are clearly harassment for monetary extortion.
Bullit you might enjoy Ice Cube's new video - Everything's Corrupt ;)

Why would ANY country pick a non-juicy target? =))

Your advantage, some big company tries to jack you, speak to an EU minister... pssst have I got a juicy target for you. ;)

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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by luceric » 06 Nov 2012, 12:45

my point was that NAFTA doesn't make north America a EU-like region. you're the one that brought it up

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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by xsisupport » 06 Nov 2012, 13:40

Hirazi Blue wrote:Yes, I can see now, how my argument was flawed. Taking Europe (and its online store) as an example I reached a wrong conclusion as Europe obviously gets special mention in the EULA as one single "territory". But one of the other stores appears to be "United States/Canada" store (which I seem to be unable to visit at all due to constant redirection). Are they considered one "territory" too?
The help for the North American store says:

If I purchase a product from one country's store, can I use it in another country?
No. Software products purchased on this Store must be used in accordance with the terms of the Autodesk License agreement accompanying them; such terms include a restriction that the products may not be used outside of the country of purchase. For this site, the Territory for sale of software products is the US, Canada, Puerto Rico and Guam. Please see the Digital River Terms and Conditions.
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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by xsisupport » 07 Nov 2012, 11:05

pluMmet wrote:
pluMmet wrote:Where is price list for "global" licenses?
google search of autodesk global license or autodesk global license "price" offers no links to the prices....
If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it. See here
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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by Bullit » 07 Nov 2012, 14:12

Your advantage, some big company tries to jack you, speak to an EU minister... pssst have I got a juicy target for you.
:) right, except when a preemptive measure was already made and the money went to the EU comissioner party...




No disagreements in that specific case Hirazi Blue. That is the sole thing good about UE.

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Re: 90-Day Fixed Term Licenses (for Max & Maya)

Post by pluMmet » 07 Nov 2012, 22:32

xsisupport wrote:
pluMmet wrote:
pluMmet wrote:Where is price list for "global" licenses?
google search of autodesk global license or autodesk global license "price" offers no links to the prices....
If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it. See here
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