Some news from Siggraph

[origin]

Beware of jumping too fast. Anyway i wouldn't trust Autodesk at all with anything. Combustion ditched, that Tox thing etc. If they go for Maya only i'll look elsewhere.

I'm not jumping anywhere, I most of time don't pay for software, only use what my emplorer have.
I would never buy maya for my own money for what this retarded corporation did and does to software they acquire.
I probably want to add another software to my toolset if I will need to change the job

[luceric]

it wouldn't surprise me if they made a premium suite upgrade deal in the future. On a related subject, I noticed that there is a deal now on the web site to upgrade to the ultimate suite (all three apps) for the same price as the premium suite (max or maya + softimage)

[bottleofram]

Not in a hurry here. As some respectable and insightful people already pointed out, exciting times lie ahead. Maybe in the end the things wont change much, but i'm perfectly fine watching from the sidelines until the dust settles.

[Daniel Brassard]

I side grade would be tempting but one would have to consider the pro and con of the move such as:

pro

Move to an app that has a more active development.
Experience working in 3D can be transferred to the other platform.
Coding in python, JScript and/or C++ can be useful.
Having a positive attitude, the will to learn and to put the effort can be rewarding.
Knowledge and experience in production can be an asset, especially in mixed pipelines.
Working with nodes (render tree, ICE, etc) can be useful in Maya
Coding in MEL could be an asset.
Mental ray in Maya is more current. The knowledge of Mental ray is transferable. Same thing with the other renderers supported by both platforms.

con

Becoming a one of many, the competition is greater for the few jobs out there.
Being current with Maya. If not, it means rebuilding the portfolio and reputation.
The younger generation, with Maya formal training are a formidable competition.
Experience working with Maya in the past can be an asset but, depending how long you staid away from Maya may means a steep learning curve which take time and effort.


An attractive side grade would be, if you are on Softimage submission, to side grade to a Maya submission at the Maya submission price (if cheaper) and the difference put toward the next submission. You can keep Softimage at your current version.

Better would be a Maya+Softimage side grade for a few hundred bucks extra (i.e what ever the difference between the cost of the Maya+Softimage submission is compared to Softimage alone minus a few hundred for the first year), then I would not lose Soft and I would gain Maya. AD would maintain a customer and help me transition to Maya at the same time (win-win). As long as I keep paying the new submission and Soft remains in development, I can use both.

For those not on submission, I don't know what would be attractive as a side grade. With the current AD concerns, i doubt any side grade offer would attract hard core Softies to AD realm again.

[Bullit]

Biggest Con is not using Softimage, unless you think Maya is at same level interface logic level. Do you feel cozy in Maya or it just seems a weird disjointed experience?

[grreez]

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[Nizar]

Well to be honest
They should give it for free for existing SI users when they decide to officialy discontinue the product.
If I were a freelance I would never buy another Autodesk product but rather stick with SI as long as its possible (eg I can still use max 2008, I dont need anything from 2013/2014) and then look at Modo/Houdini.

don't even thing switching to maya. Let the cancer rot and vanish. Shall we waste more time and money and feed some greedy fat arses? NO! What they did to Softimage was nothing but a pure theft "40 million at the service of ............... exodus to maya"...

But where is the damn button "like it"?
A friend of mine until now has been working with Softimage | 3D, so softimage will remain on my HD for long time. I'll wait a good replace when others software evolution and development will make it more appealing (so definitely will not be a ADSK software) . TBH I'm happy no more subscription to ADSK, finally I'll make a serious render farm

[Hirazi Blue]

But where is the damn button "like it"?

Here it is:

We do, however, experience some technical difficulties at the moment,
as you can't actually press it... (and we're pretty sure its trademarked)
;)
(yes, I'm in that kind of mood, sorry...)

[Mathaeus]

On Area there is a video on "Behind the curtain of RD". There you can see a little bit about bifrost! The interface looks a bit like ICE. It is called "Open Procedural FX Framework". Maybe this is what the Maya FX Team is working on!

http://area.autodesk.com/Anaheim2013

Just watched this Bifrost thing. Well, attractive is that dark side Direct volume rendering, all these LODs... this could be a game changer in the field. If I'm correct, they should be able to get much faster volume render, if data comes from simulator.
Real Flow people probably are working overtime these days, even I don't have idea how they will be able to catch this. Imho for now, they are only under attack. However, if we will see enough TV commercials, based on Naiad/Bifrost features, so client will come with 'I want this'.... I don't know...

By the way, contract with devil is some kind of permanent, isn't it...

[grreez]

that's for ADSK, hope they will like it

[dwigfor]

Damn, I haven't heard that song in forever! But I like Jesus Built My Hotrod better... 1st vid is blocked

[gustavoeb]

as we are throwing random videos around:
https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/2Mr4mj ... %26end=105 (Bluestarimage)
https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/2Mr4mj ... %26end=140 (AD's mantra)



ps: didnt use youtube tags in order to cut specific moments of the video

[luceric]

it wouldn't surprise me if they made a premium suite upgrade deal in the future. On a related subject, I noticed that there is a deal now on the web site to upgrade to the ultimate suite (all three apps) for the same price as the premium suite (max or maya + softimage)

From the Softimage weekly newsletter, it's 1,575$ to upgrade from Softimage 2014 to the Ultimate Suite (+Max,+Maya,+Mudbox)

[BenR]

it wouldn't surprise me if they made a premium suite upgrade deal in the future. On a related subject, I noticed that there is a deal now on the web site to upgrade to the ultimate suite (all three apps) for the same price as the premium suite (max or maya + softimage)

From the Softimage weekly newsletter, it's 1,575$ to upgrade from Softimage 2014 to the Ultimate Suite (+Max,+Maya,+Mudbox)

What is the subscription cost for the suites? Not sure how to find it on the Autodesk sites.

[ojo3D]

it wouldn't surprise me if they made a premium suite upgrade deal in the future. On a related subject, I noticed that there is a deal now on the web site to upgrade to the ultimate suite (all three apps) for the same price as the premium suite (max or maya + softimage)

From the Softimage weekly newsletter, it's 1,575$ to upgrade from Softimage 2014 to the Ultimate Suite (+Max,+Maya,+Mudbox)

That's actually a good deal.

[ojo3D]

it wouldn't surprise me if they made a premium suite upgrade deal in the future. On a related subject, I noticed that there is a deal now on the web site to upgrade to the ultimate suite (all three apps) for the same price as the premium suite (max or maya + softimage)

From the Softimage weekly newsletter, it's 1,575$ to upgrade from Softimage 2014 to the Ultimate Suite (+Max,+Maya,+Mudbox)

What is the subscription cost for the suites? Not sure how to find it on the Autodesk sites.

Autodesk Entertainment Creation Suite Ultimate 2014
Priced from:
£7,500.00

From Autodesk Store.