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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by Bellsey » 16 Mar 2012, 17:51

I have just returned from 2 weeks in the US on business, so haven't had the time. Not sure I will now to be honest, besides you guys are too hard to please. ^:)^

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Post by pluMmet » 17 Mar 2012, 12:25

Bellsey wrote: SolidAngle, Chaos Group and Exocortex don't seem to have a problem.
SolidAngle should not be on your list as they don't sell their product to most artists, I've been trying to get them to sell me a license of Arnold for over a year :((

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Post by Memag » 17 Mar 2012, 12:38

pluMmet wrote:
Bellsey wrote: SolidAngle, Chaos Group and Exocortex don't seem to have a problem.
SolidAngle should not be on your list as they don't sell their product to most artists, I've been trying to get them to sell me a license of Arnold for over a year :((
They are still a third party developer.

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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by EricTRocks » 17 Mar 2012, 12:46

pluMmet wrote:
Bellsey wrote: SolidAngle, Chaos Group and Exocortex don't seem to have a problem.
SolidAngle should not be on your list as they don't sell their product to most artists, I've been trying to get them to sell me a license of Arnold for over a year :((
That doesn't negate the fact they are a huge supporter of Softimage and its development. SolidAngle are being smart about controlling the number of users it can support. Would you like to have a license to a software and have to wait 3 months for a support email response? Its for the benefit of their current customers and themselves to build a stronger company.
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Post by Hirazi Blue » 17 Mar 2012, 12:57

Solid Angles licensing policy? Let's not go there yet again! :ympray:
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Post by pluMmet » 17 Mar 2012, 16:27

EricTRocks wrote:That doesn't negate the fact they are a huge supporter of Softimage and its development. SolidAngle are being smart about controlling the number of users it can support. Would you like to have a license to a software and have to wait 3 months for a support email response? Its for the benefit of their current customers and themselves to build a stronger company.
Says the man with access to Arnold ~x(

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Post by brudney » 17 Mar 2012, 18:11

pluMmet wrote:
...I've been trying to get them to sell me a license of Arnold for over a year :((
OMG LOL, even today I find it hard to believe that as incredibly ridiculous that sounds, it's true... 8-} :))

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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by Hirazi Blue » 17 Mar 2012, 19:04

Hirazi Blue wrote:Solid Angles licensing policy? Let's not go there yet again! :ympray:
Too subtle?

I (in my role as a Moderator/Administrator) strongly suggest not letting this thread drift
into yet another bitter discussion about the pros and cons of Arnold licensing...
~x( ;)
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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by pluMmet » 17 Mar 2012, 20:46

Sorry HB, not really complaining...

So when was si2012 released last year, are we around that time frame now?

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Post by Chris_TC » 17 Mar 2012, 21:09

EricTRocks wrote:SolidAngle are being smart about controlling the number of users it can support. Would you like to have a license to a software and have to wait 3 months for a support email response?
If this meant that they actually let me buy it, then: hell yes. I'd buy it with no support at all.

@Hirazi: I just answered the question, not trying to start a discussion.

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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by jamination » 17 Mar 2012, 21:24

and autodesk does sell version of max/maya WITHOUT advanced support. so it is possible.
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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by EricTRocks » 17 Mar 2012, 23:31

pluMmet wrote:
EricTRocks wrote:That doesn't negate the fact they are a huge supporter of Softimage and its development. SolidAngle are being smart about controlling the number of users it can support. Would you like to have a license to a software and have to wait 3 months for a support email response? Its for the benefit of their current customers and themselves to build a stronger company.
Says the man with access to Arnold ~x(
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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by bottleofram » 18 Mar 2012, 06:42

Since there probably wont be any more previews (we're tough crowd, we bite when shown something meant for those dirty "autodesk platform" guys, arrrrrrggg! ;) ), with release date nearing by and all, i might as well derail this thread even further. Hopefully Hirazi wont mind...

So, how realistic do you guys think is to expect an UI rewrite in near future? And before you yell "mutiny!" am not asking because i want darker UI. I just see a lot of great plugins that would have been tenfold better if the developer had more freedom creating an interface for it. Would this be as monumental task as i think it would be? Would you welcome it? Seeing how maya still has a lot of problems 2 years after introducing Qt, would it be worth it? Is this even a viable idea? Maybe there are some legacy issues that would prevent it or make it extremely unlikely...

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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by EricTRocks » 18 Mar 2012, 07:53

Personally all I'd really want is the current UI elements to be modernized a bit (they still look a bit early 90s to me, just needs a little modernization) and they can darken the UI a bit if they care to, no biggy to me. I don't want a complete rewrite of the UI as that will just toss all kinds of "fun" shit our way in terms of glitches. What I would prefer is a built in QT implementation so we can create our own interfaces for our plug-ins. This can already be done with the open source one and others that studios have rolled out on their own, but I want one without having to install or configure anything myself.
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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by Hirazi Blue » 18 Mar 2012, 10:38

@bottleofram - I don't mind the derailment per se at all, as this specific thread has already derailed in so many directions... I warned for ONE specific derailment as it is my experience that discussions concerning Arnold licensing tend to turn ugly quickly. Maybe I was just being overprotective... Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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pluMmet wrote:So when was si2012 released last year, are we around that time frame now?
You're right, last year they announced the new version of SI around the GDC. This year they didn't, as they wanted to highlight their "Gameware" middleware product line, and officially we do not know when SI2013 will be announced and subsequently released.
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Re: SI Technology Previews

Post by Rez007 » 19 Mar 2012, 16:29

I received an email from AD the other day to sign up for a virtual event on March 29th, where the event says: "Join us for this free Autodesk Virtual Event and see how the latest Autodesk software can help you lead the way in bringing your ideas to life and transforming your business," with an additional "This is an event you won't want to miss." Based on this email I think one could assume that it will be announced very soon, to correlate with this event - as it seems logical. If I remember correctly, something like this was done similar a little while back upon a new release...just speculation.