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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 01 May 2012, 21:01 
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I used R + mouse left click and drag (and it works fine), is it supposed to work without the mouse click?


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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 01 May 2012, 21:06 
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Nope, It should work only with r+drag (like tweak tool). Pressing (and/or releasing) R without LMB should do nothing.

bottle, one more thing. Do you by a chance use some non-standard qwerty keyboard? What's your system language?

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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 01 May 2012, 23:00 
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Ok, i tried with a fresh user folder, same thing but I have a better idea how to repro now:

1. map the pmSoftTransform command to a key (problem does not occur when the tool is invoked by a menu item)
2. select an object
3. press the key to call up the tool
4. do not orbit the camera or do anything else just press R immediately after

Soft will reset the camera. At least thats whats happening here. If you do orbit the cam first, no problem.

Softimage 2012SAP 64bit,
regular qwerty keyboard,
English system language


EDIT: tried on 2013 and it works fine


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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 01 May 2012, 23:07 
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As usual, fantastic addon Piotrek!
Thank you very much for sharing this.

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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 02 May 2012, 00:41 
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bottleofram wrote:
Ok, i tried with a fresh user folder, same thing but I have a better idea how to repro now:

1. map the pmSoftTransform command to a key (problem does not occur when the tool is invoked by a menu item)
2. select an object
3. press the key to call up the tool
4. do not orbit the camera or do anything else just press R immediately after

Soft will reset the camera. At least thats whats happening here. If you do orbit the cam first, no problem.

Softimage 2012SAP 64bit,
regular qwerty keyboard,
English system language


EDIT: tried on 2013 and it works fine


Thanks, I can reproduce it. Really weird. I know the reason...but I think its SI bug (tool doesn't invoke Activate method when you...activate it). Hotkeys are not assigned and tool description doesn't show up on the bottom.
Anyway, already fixed... So it's okay in 2013?

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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 02 May 2012, 10:47 
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origin wrote:
druitre wrote:
Hi Origin,

I get a screenspace problem, or what should I call it. Small mouse or wacompen movements give big translations/rotations/scales, collisions take place far away from surfaces, or don't occur at all. I have a dual monitor setup, could it be the plugin is mapping both monitors as one screen? Or is it a Wacom problem?

Jasper


Do you use some custom layout? Can you share it?
Im also on dual screen, 30" + 27" + wacom, tried all built-in layouts, works okay


I have a 24HD Cintiq as primary and a 24" + Wacom as secondary, on a GTX 460.
I'll try and switch around a bit to see if that changes anything.

[edit] Partially fixed: I switched the monitorcables around to a more standard setup (my 2nd input was set to primary) and now translate and rotate respond normally. Although I don't get any response on 'scale'. Everything else works, strange.

Question:
Is it intentional that any selected objects are ignored by the plugin? This confuses me, I would expect the logic to be inverse - select what you want to be affected (and if you don't select anything affect everything)


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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 08 May 2012, 21:02 
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I don't have access to cintiq so it's a bit hard for me to debug the stuff you describe. Do any of other plugins I've uploaded work for you (quick prim/ quick extrude?), and maybe xsi build-it new Add Smooth Edge loop tool (its build on top of custom tool sdk Im using)?

Yes selection is intentional (for collision checking). You can invert this behaviour in preferences

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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 09 May 2012, 13:43 
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Hi,

I've switched things around so now my 24" is primary and the Cintiq is secondary. All your plugins look to be working correctly now (hooray!), only one small thing that is off:

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(moved the cursor slightly up in the second pic, the screencap doesn't grab the crosshairs but they're still there)
This happens only in userview, all other views I can place primitive anywhere in view. In userview upper 10% or so the quickprimitive cursor disappears.

About the preferences: cool, I didn't know they were there. Switched unmovable to movable, that works better to my logic. I also noticed before that collision seemed to be always off (bounding box too big), I set it to 63% in the preferences and that looks much better.

What I can still say about the multimonitor setup and XSI is that it's the only software that persists in opening across both screens when maximized - no other programs do this and it's $%$#! annoying.


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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 09 May 2012, 13:50 
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Good to hear! It's probably because cursor is above line of horizon (not on grid anymore)

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 Post subject: Re: Soft Transform
PostPosted: 09 May 2012, 14:20 
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Yes, I checked and you're right. In cameraview the same. It means a primitive is always created either on zero-plane or on other topology?


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