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GDC 2017

Post by Bullit » 28 Feb 2017, 08:34

First a DX12 topic and how it is dubious if it is worth it.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Is-DirectX ... 706.0.html
GDC 2017 | Is DirectX 12 worth it? A game developer gives us some insights.
During GDC 2017 the CEO of Nixxes, Jurjen Katsman, talked about his experience in porting games from DirectX 11 to DirectX 12. Nixxes is the developer responsible for the DirectX 12 render paths of Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and Rise of the Tomb Raider.
by Klaus Hinum, 2017/02/28

Katsman mentioned a number of problems when moving from DirectX 11 to DirectX 12 and made clear that it is not a walk in the park. It is a complex path to produce optimized DirectX 12 code and takes a lot of time. Especially in early 2016, when Nixxes was one of the first developers switching to DirectX 12, there were a lot of problems. Missing debugging tools, sparse documentation and driver problems led to the late DirectX 12 patches for both games.

Even now, as many mentioned problems should be less severe, there are a lot of aspects that impact performance and complexity. Especially the memory management is a big problem to handle. DirectX 12 needs more memory than DirectX 11 and has problems when using more memory than physically available on the graphics card. As DirectX 12 is a low level API, the code has to be tested on a lot of hardware combinations as it may show performance problems on specific combinations that are not present with the primary test hardware (different hardware costs). Furthermore, the DX12 gains are easily masked by high quality settings, fast CPUs, or running in high resolutions.

Async Compute is definitely the future according to Katsman, but currently it shows most gains on the current gaming consoles.

In a later talk, a Ubisoft developer for the AC series also mentioned that DX 12 is hard to develop for. Only changing the API without optimization led to a much lower performance in their example (200% mentioned on the slide).
Good DirectX 12 gains with SLI or Crossfire

Multi GPU with DX12 is one of the most positive aspects of the new API. The developers are quite happy with their direct control over multiple GPUs. AFR (alternate frame rate) in the driver (SLI and CrossFire in DirectX 11) is unpredictable, leads to high CPU overhead and is uncontrollable according to Katsman. Furthermore, he mentioned that memory stacking (using all of the GPU memory of both cards and not duplicate the data in it) won't be coming. It is no easy task to do that and the market is not big enough to justify investments (time and money) to solve this problem.
Up to 10 % better performance

A big problem of DirectX 12 is also the surrounding hype. Many users were looking forward to high performance gains, but according to Katsman, only 10% are possible. This, combined with the high efforts to produce a good DirectX 12 version, lead to the question whether DirectX 12 is worth it. "A good question" was the answer of Katsman, although he saw it rather "positive". All in all, the hype for DirectX 12 is a bit inflated. It is a lot of work to use the new low-level API and users should not expect huge performance gains.

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Re: GDC 2017

Post by gaboraa » 28 Feb 2017, 10:24

Microsoft should have made the switch years ago. As they fear of being absorbed by Android and Vulkan starts to rise, they start pushing it more. DX was always a frustration in its core design concept of not allowing apps to directly communicate with the hardware. That is why ASIO drivers were introduced for sound cards and applications to communicate with the hardware by avoiding DirectX on windows.

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Re: GDC 2017

Post by Bullit » 28 Feb 2017, 17:40

Thanks for input gaboraa. Switch to Vulkan?

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Re: GDC 2017

Post by gaboraa » 02 Mar 2017, 12:19

Bullit wrote:Thanks for input gaboraa. Switch to Vulkan?
Not actually, UE4 Vukan support is very fresh at the moment but the results are mind blowing for sure. IMHO Mobile games will experience a boost in the not so distant future.

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Re: GDC 2017

Post by Bullit » 03 Mar 2017, 20:08

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