I realized that, but I thought of it as a satirical piece.
I apologize if I caused damage.

this post for Vray information.i just want show to xsi users whate is good in Vray.thanks

Well you failed to do that
- arnold render is clearly better quality. Each strand is shaded properly by gi, while in vray you see patches of interpolated gi. This 'toon' look can be achieved with multiple spots+deepshadows.
- you can't use interpolated gi with hairs cause they will flicker
- you can't use lightcache with hairs/thin objects (think pages of a book) cause it will flicker even more
- hair prim in vray is extruded flat quad patch; from the look of this render and video from FMX i would guess that arnold shades 'cylinders'
- brute force gi & vray hair primitive is ultra slow
- transparency on vray hair prim kills rendertimes

(i love vray and done hundreds of commercials with it)

thanks for your good information thanks origin
do have arnold trail and can send to me with email

Please stop this nonsense.

i see end of result .i dont see deep of olgoritm render.vray hair i very realise hair like hair cut or hair farm on final render from cebus my frinds.i really like the autodesk buy arnold and solve this problem and put it to softimage .this is very nice idea.but in tme i think vray better for us.thanks

ad should implement arnold in si?
that would be the worst thing that can happen.
look at mr and what ad is doing with it at the moment. support for mr is really bad because you have to go to ad. on the other hand, mi is not responsible for the integration.
arnold support is great and you have fast bugfixes. bugfixes for mr means you have to wait for a x.5 version which you only get thru subscription (except show stopper bugs, then ad is great enough to give a hotfix away). the whole situation is a bad joke at the moment. so lets hope this will never happen.


@ origin:
that would be a bad thing if the hair consist of flat patches only and not thick curves/geometry. because the lighting and shading will never look really good, except the shader uses some tricks to go over the shading problem. would be great to get some more informations here.

and in general, transparency on hair kills rendertime for all renderer. this is one thing why mr hair is slower when render with hairshader, the transparency is enabled, deactivate it and it renders 2,5-3 times faster. you have to handle the transparency different for hair rendering. nvidia arc(mi) is doing this constantly, newer version should bring here better performance.
so if this is a problem in vray, we should start a wishlist thread vor vray asap.

Vray its great and dont have any problem.i tested the hair in to all of lighing mode.even brutforce and have very nice result and very fast .we just want vray be a faster and faster and faster.

see this amazing hair plugin for 3dsmax which base on vray rendering.
http://www.ephere.com/plugins/autodesk/max/ornatrix/

Newcomer (<20 posts) alert: please use the URL tags - HB

nourvfx, I remember your Arnold "tutorial" on vimeo, did you know that version that you use is badly out of date? Probably not. You talking about closing beta testing, in which you even don't participate in, so keep your opinions to yourselves until we get a final version of the product, m'key?

@nourvfx - you've made your point, let it rest...
@iamvfx - please refrain from direct insults (even if they are presented as cartoons)
@everybody else - most of you have also made your point, so let it rest also...

This is my not so subtle final warning... (Next stop: closing this thread...)