Announcing Redshift - Biased GPU Renderer

[face]

Yes it's coming since Octane was released. Just like V-ray for Softimage that took about half decade for the first release...

Not realy...
Coming since the SDK is available, a little bit over 1.5 years, when i remember correct.
It´s ever tricky to integrate a SDK which comes from outside. The developer of the SDK hasn´t any clue of the Softimage SDK. So there are many workarounds required, to get the result you want.
When all comes from one hand or the SDK develper knows what each application needs, then the developement should be faster.

Keep also in mind the time to convert all Octane shaders to make they ready to use with the render tree.
The integration uses only this shaders and wouldn´t work with MR ones, except the standard image, phong, lambert etc...

It´s not simple for one man which has a job, work in shifts and is 10hrs out of the home, to develop an integrated render solution. When you make a rough estimate of the time the man have per week, you should know how many time it take, to get a working render integration.

Ha ops, one question, if ia can: Can RS be used to bake texture with ultimapper? It will be usable for this? (because is a task that i do frequently and Ambient occlusion take looong time...)

At the moment there is no baking inside Octane possible. So much i know, it should coming.
Don´t know if any other unibased renderer can bake to textures...

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[steve3d]

Yes, technically, there no posible for a unbiased renderer to suport rendermap/ultramap feature in softimage, but as the website says redshift is a biased/unbiased hybird renderer, so should redshift support render to texture feature?

This is a important feature for those games development.

[xsi_fanatic]

Yes it's coming since Octane was released. Just like V-ray for Softimage that took about half decade for the first release...

RS is here, is for Softimage and its working.

Yeah man, RedShift is sexy !

[Cacoman]

Face:

I am not blaming the man. In fact he (you), is one of Softimage heroes here.

What I am saying in other words is that nor Octane nor V-ray were interested in Softimage from the beggining. And Octane is still not interested... That is why you deserve all my respect trying to bring all by yourself Octane for Softimage.

We have more one man developments for Softimage than those of big companies. Thiago Costa, Ben Houston, Eric Mootz, You, etc., just to mention a few.

At this time I believe that Octane should have made some effort at least on helping you this dream come true.

I am one of the many guys following your progress. And what you have achieved in those in between shift times deserves a standing ovation.

So keep it up!

[wireframex]

what you have achieved in those in between shift times deserves a standing ovation.
So keep it up!

Thanks to him

[yashugan]

some news about RED SHIFT?

Is a very silent period. There is some screen? Some new? some stuff to keep alive the curiosity? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bullit]

V-ray were interested in Softimage from the beggining

Vray was not interested because Softimage didn't had SDK or exposed SDK to add a render engine. They even developed when it was suboptimal and had to throw part of the work away because Softimage listened and started to expose, or add SDK. So it was not lack of will.

[Cacoman]

Well Redshift is still in its Alpha stage, but has already been used in production.

I was going to post how far it is now, but I believe that is for them to speak about it.

What I can say is that day by day something new is comming out, and more production work is being done with it even in its alpha stage.

It has been integrated into some pipelines.

And the Redshift team is listening to each one of our requests. IMHO, Redshift is going to KSA!

I've been lucky to catch them when they started looking for alpha testers!

If you want to see what is comming out from us, the testers, suff that we are allowed to show search in vimeo.

Here is one of the latest TV commercials I've been involved and the 3D is done in Softimage and Redshift.



And here is another shot with Softimage and Redshift. All CG.

In this last one the rack focus and motion blur is what comes out straight from Redshift. No post, except of course the audio.

[ActionArt]

I can second that. It is coming along VERY NICELY. This will be THE render engine to get when it comes out, no doubt. I'm so glad I got on the test team, it has been a great experience.

[Hirazi Blue]

Coming along nicely enough to leave its alpha state soon? I seem to recall someone commenting that calling it an alpha was somewhat false modesty anyway.
;)

[ActionArt]

In some ways yes. I think it's because they're still adding features which technically still makes it alpha. There's a bit to go yet to get all the great stuff they have planned in the first release. Lots of work but going quickly.

Makes me realize just how pathetic the mentalray/AD integration is. It'll be 2050 before we get the current mr feature set integrated and by then nobody will care.

Thank the lucky stars for Redshift! It'll save us.

[Cacoman]

Well as Action Art said, I believe it will come to beta after all the features supported by other render engines are there.

Although Redshift is lighting bolt fast compared to other renders to achieve the quality Redshift is delivering, they are still improving speed and attending our requests. Don't know how many hours a day this guys work, but it's insane.

I've seen some new (but old ;) ), faces in the group.

Maybe if you write them...

[yashugan]

I also would like try it, but i suppose that if they decided a close number of tester, there is a reason. For shure, any way, i'll bought it. XSI need really something FASTER than the superslow mental ray.

I have only to wait. but looking other render time of develope i really ahve few hope to see it soon.
Any way my best wish!!!! Keep strong!

[scaron]

are there any alpha/beta testers of redshift here willing to answer these questions about the plugin integration with softimage?

they are almost all related IPR, or how interactive the scene updates from changes done by the user...
-if you have a large scene with many objects and you do a modeling change on one object, does the entire scene need to be reprocessed/exported?
-is instancing supported? through ICE?
-what happens when you do modeling changes to an object which is instanced?
-is there a fly through mode? ie. do you have to re export the scene every time the frame changes even if it is static?
-what happens if you import an softimage model from disk? does the entire scene need to be reprocessed/exported?

thanks!

[doca]

I cant answer to all your questions but here is some info:
-I think that there is no whole scene export if you change something. I am working on huge scene, about 15 million unique polygons, with animated trees (leafs are animated, ice instanced, so there is only 10-20 unique polygons for leafs), tons of instance models (none of them goes to xsi scene polycount), animated characters... I believe there is a few hundred millions of rendered polys, maybe even billion, all leafs with translucency... First frame is exported in a less than minute, all others take about 20-30 sec, and for every frame it takes new cache. Every frame has motion blur and dof enabled. Render time is about 1.5-4 minutes, without gi, about 2-6 with gi (brute force gi). It is rendered with GTX titan, but, I must say that render time is exactly the same on GTX 780, so thre is no need for titan. For those scenes memory consumption is about 1.3-1.5 gigabytes (again, no need for titan).
Hope, this helped.

[Draise]

Impressive results!