Where can you still buy Softimage?

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FXDude
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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by FXDude » 08 Jun 2016, 16:22

I'm in the US and you can buy and sell (previously purchased) permanent licenses of AD products. I got some work in 3ds Max and purchased a permanent license from fellow 3d artist. AD transferred the license without resistance. The process was as simple as filling out a form, both parties sign the form, and open a ticket with included info. Took about 3 days for AD to reply. The license was transferred about 2 days later.

In general, I've found the information AD releases to be more of a misinformation campaign.

Did you know that for 2 years anyone buying a Max or Maya license could have bought the Max with SI or Maya with SI license for no extra cost? AD had everyone convinced only current Softimage license holders could buy those products. Totally false and totally illegal (in the US); you can't sell to a subset of people. So think of all those Max/Maya purchases from 2014 to 2016 which would have received a free SI license. You have to watch AD's wording. They have an agenda. Sadly the agenda was to bury Softimage.

If you find someone willing to sell a permanent Softimage license, AD will transfer it. Although I'm sure they would rather not.
Hum! Thanks for the Info! Good to know!

For the item, perhaps seeking B&H support on the matter?

I doubt it's like a rogue database entry (also seen elsewhere), as item availability seems otherwise thoroughly maintained.

Perhaps there is somehow an obligation or some motivation in letting it remain somehow slightly available?

Or perhaps was there some reseller independence due to something like prepaid licenses if there was such a thing?

I wouldn't ask for official source confirmation of any that, but if B&H explicitly confirms upon request that it's 'real', then it probably is.

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by luceric » 08 Jun 2016, 19:17

What I find a little strange is that the B&H product says it's "Electronic Download" and therefore no box, but I'm curious to know if it is indeed legit.
lard wrote:Did you know that for 2 years anyone buying a Max or Maya license could have bought the Max with SI or Maya with SI license for no extra cost? AD had everyone convinced only current Softimage license holders could buy those products. Totally false and totally illegal (in the US); you can't sell to a subset of people.
if that were true, any software upgrades would be illegal, because they all require that you own a license of the original product. They did change the requirements for the transition bundles a few months into it, probably because it's too hard to manage
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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by lard » 08 Jun 2016, 20:03

if that were true, any software upgrades would be illegal, because they all require that you own a license of the original product. They did change the requirements for the transition bundles a few months into it, probably because it's too hard to manage
I'm not following you.

During the last 2 years of Softimage, AD was selling additional licenses of Softimage. Studios could purchase however many license of Softimage they wanted. Those licenses came in the form of Maya with Softimage or Max with Softimage. They were about $3,500 for a perm license. A Max or Maya license was also $3,500... but for only Max or Maya.

These "products" were available to anyone.

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by luceric » 08 Jun 2016, 20:35

lard wrote:
if that were true, any software upgrades would be illegal, because they all require that you own a license of the original product. They did change the requirements for the transition bundles a few months into it, probably because it's too hard to manage
I'm not following you.

During the last 2 years of Softimage, AD was selling additional licenses of Softimage. Studios could purchase however many license of Softimage they wanted. Those licenses came in the form of Maya with Softimage or Max with Softimage. They were about $3,500 for a perm license. A Max or Maya license was also $3,500... but for only Max or Maya.

These "products" were available to anyone.
I quoted what I was replying to: you wrote it was "totally illegal" to sell a product to only a subset of people.

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by lard » 08 Jun 2016, 22:07

I see.

I don't believe I'm incorrect tho. AD can't restrict the sales of an upgrade to anyone. But they can require a previous license for it to run. But now we are just talking in circles for the sake of talking in circles.

Fun.

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by FXDude » 09 Jun 2016, 15:07

Here are other possible avenues ::


PCM | Autodesk, 3ds Max with Softimage 2016 - New License - 1 additional seat - commercial - VCP, SLM - Win, 978H1-001151-10A1-VC
http://www.pcm.com/p/Autodesk-Graphics-And-Development-Software-Licensing/product~dpno~13466460~pdp.jahijaf?src=search

PCM | Autodesk, Maya with Softimage 2016 - New License - 1 additional seat - commercial - VCP, SLM - Linux, Win, Mac, 977H1-00115C-10A1-VC
http://www.pcm.com/p/Autodesk-Graphics- ... dp.jahiife

Autodesk Maya with Softimage 2016 - New License - 977H1-WWR11C-1001-VC - CAD/CAM Software - CDW.com
https://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Autod ... px?pfm=srh

Softmart.com - Autodesk 3ds Max with Softimage 2015 [978G1-WWR111-1001-VC]
http://www.softmartgov.com/products/det ... ccessories

Buy the Autodesk Softimage 2013 - New License at TigerDirect.ca
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... &CatId=993

Autodesk Softimage 2014 (Download) 590F1-WWR11E-1001 B&H Photo
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1 ... l_new.html


If you search "Sofitmage" in any of these supplyers, there seem to also be upgrades, crossgrades "competitive trade-up"(?) and other types I don't know about.

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by Shredder565 » 13 Jun 2016, 22:09

I think I may be going the B and H route ASAP just in case it dissapears.
Trying to get an early release on half my christmas bonus since i doubt it'll still be around by december.

but that CDW option....

it has a lease option. is that like a payment plan?

I could do that one right now if that where the case and someone else had tried it.
I can't do the B and H one right now because my credit limit is $2400

and i'd REALLY like softimage 2014. I'm trying 2015 right now and i noticed it doesn't install with shortcuts. can't figure out how to get my cxv buttons working ;o)

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by Hirazi Blue » 13 Jun 2016, 22:33

Shredder565 wrote:and i'd REALLY like softimage 2014. I'm trying 2015 right now and i noticed it doesn't install with shortcuts. can't figure out how to get my cxv buttons working ;o)
Getting Softimage 2015 will be hard enough, getting Softimage 2014 at this stage would seem "out of the question".
Try to get your hands on Softimage 2015 and this community undoubtedly will be willing to try to help you with any unforeseen differences/problems you might run into... :ymhug:
Stay safe, sane & healthy!

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by Shredder565 » 13 Jun 2016, 22:51

b and H actually IS softimage 2014 ;o)

but yeah, i'd be happy with 2015 too.

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by Shredder565 » 13 Jun 2016, 23:10

heh, you guys might find this funny.

turns out my fathers company has an autodesk contact.

they confirmed they are selling options like autodesk max with softimage or maya with softimage 2016, like the CDW bit above.
But they didn't mention that other places are selling it for a full license. the official company reps are mentioning leased licenses only.
I didn't bring up these links though... and it looks like i'll be going with either the cdw or the b and h one now..
talk about trying to nickle and dime un informed customers ;o)

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by softey » 28 Sep 2016, 02:26

Hello. I'm new to the forum and was wondering about how to purchase this software.

I'm a Max and Maya animator but on occasions there are a few jobs that come up asking for Softimage animators. I've never used, but with it being discontinued, you cant download a trial which is a shame as the software looks very interesting. I also haven't heard anything about Autodesk making it PD yet.

So - where can I buy this package for european shores? Or will I have to buy a license of someone else?

Thanks

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by Hirazi Blue » 28 Sep 2016, 10:51

I am afraid you're "out of luck",
unless you'll find someone with an existing license willing to part with it...
But even then I am unsure, if Autodesk will facilitate the license transfer.
:((
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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by Shredder565 » 19 Oct 2016, 21:49

The update...

Supposedly, the Autodesk rep that we have says that soon 2014 will no longer be supported. meaning that if you reformat, you might be crap out of luck at getting the software back.

Yet, i thought i read somewhere on here that they will make sure you have access to this software for as long as you own it with authorization codes just like they always have?

To me, it just sounded like the rep was trying to stear us toward buying the more expensive Lease options that no one likes...

rather than buying it from B and H
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1003194-REG/autodesk_590f1_wwr11e_1001_softimage_2014_commercial_new.html

which is still up BTW.

If worse comes to worse i guess one can always use a key gen to gain access again. Or Softimage COULD be nice and do what adobe did for older software like Audition. and give owners a license that works no matter what and doesn't need activation.

that's the least they can do for screwing us over.

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by Shredder565 » 05 Jan 2017, 00:53

we tried the b and h option but it didn't go through. i was hoping they'd have the serial number on hand and send it to us with a link to download from t heir site...but no such luck.

The CDW people said the option to own is also gone from their site. all they have left is the subscription option for 2015 for three years.


oh well. why did i wait so long to upgrade? :)

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by Shredder565 » 18 Jan 2017, 22:37

well, in case anyone wants to know.. the bhphotovideo option was a bust.
the cdw option was a bust.

apparently no one actually had the product on hand, yet they still listed it for sale and had to check with autodesk.

i still think autodesk is being tremendously short sighted.

what harm would it do to add it in as a bonus with either maya or max?

they already own it. it's just sitting around.

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Re: Where can you still buy Softimage?

Post by MauricioPC » 31 May 2017, 06:39

Just an update on this subject. Apparently a guy was able to sell his license of 3ds Max in Europe.
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread. ... ge=1&pp=15


So maybe there is hope. But it would required someone willing to sell their Softimage license, which I believe will be hard. :)

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