you mean a working extrude tool?

Na, thanks, I'm out ;-)

Cheers,

Thomas

I had a short chat with my reseller after an email inquiry, and basically it confirms what we already know.

These prices are in euros for Holland, but it shows what's going on:

standalone goes up to € 3300,-
networked version goes up to € 4125,-
subscription is upped to € 900,-

And there's the option to cross-grade to a suite with max or maya, mudbox and motionbuilder.
With Softimage already up and running this will cost € 1650,- to get the suite, with an additional subscription fee of € 1100,-

If you just want to extend your subscription, there's a 3 year offer based on the old price, minus a discount. This probably will depend on dealer and country too.

And this is all locked to the 1st of August.

But we don't need food, just software... right??

rob

The question remains what this means for the status of Subscription. At the moment there is only one sort of Subscription available to Softimage users, the Subscription with Gold Support. As I have read people on the Mailing List defending the new pricing scheme as being in line with a uniform pricing between Max, Maya and Softimage, one would hope, this new uniformity would give Softimage users access to the basic Subscription Max & Maya users seem to be able to enjoy.
To some/most of you this new pricing scheme might not be a big deal. To me, however, this price increase potentially might just end my time in the "wonderful world" of Softimage abruptly (hobbyist, tight bugdet, yada yada yada...)

One gets the impression that a sidegrade to Max or Maya accompanied by basic Subscription would be a better deal in the long run from a purely financial point of view...

As I can understand a 'leveling' of subscription prices, I don't think most of us shrug it off and happily pay the new prices.

Most of us on this list are freelancers, or run small businesses, and due to the economy things aren't really that easy right now.
The time of big(ger) budgets is way behind us, so any major upgrades in license fees -is- a big thing.
Especially as most of us don't run -just- Softimage to get a job done. And all that software has maintenance, upgrades to pay for etc., so it end up quite quickly.

It looks like AD is adopting the Adobe strategy of doing business regarding the 3D apps, and buying into a Suite is more interesting money wise than just the stand alone application.
It's a shame there's not a lot of choice, I would like to see 3D only Suites, SI-Max or Maya-Mudbox for instance. I really don't have a purpose for MotionBuilder....

But even than, upgrading will be a lot of money every year, and like with Adobe, at a certain point new features of app X don't make any sense for your work. PS CS2 might just do the job just fine. And skipping a Suite or two because of this is can be a calculated decision regarding Subscription renewals.

I think it's clear we don't like it, and we really would have seen this coming months in advance instead of a three week notice, with a deadline attached to it.
I'm not sure what to do yet, I might just let it 'slide' this year, as all the stuff I need is there feature wise. We'll see what happens with SI 2013......

rob

My remark about "some/most of you" wasn't meant to insult anyone. If it did, sorry!!! I just wanted to make my personal POV (the new price is above one monthly income for me) come across & the reason why I am really struggling with this (and trying hard not to get mad about this).

I'll start adding smileys again to my replies

I only have 2 licences, and the price increase is a big chunk of budget that could go towards other apps/hardware/food.

I am hoping that some of the theoretical possibilities that stephen describes on the list will come to pass...

I like your sense of humour.

What I don't know is why it's so much more expensive in Europe than in the US?

Because Adobe already got away with it?

What's annoying is that before softimage was part of autodesk prices were relatively equal in europe and across the pond.