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QuickInsetAuthor: Piotrek Marczak
Updated May 2013 (info) — Rewrite of the original QuickExtrude tool. This tool performs quick modo-like interactive extrude, bevel and inset operations without showing a property page. Piotrek's notes from the si-community thread: Extruding along normal is available only in 2012 SAP for operations that relies on SI units you drag in component's normal direction, for other ops (like point skirting ratio/bevel subdivisions) just drag across screen subdivision highlighting is supported only for level 1 and only catmull-clark J, L hotkeys change subdivision on extrude K hotkey is for repeating operation on highlighted component/subselection ENTER shows op PPG shift makes operations 10x slower LMB is extruding, LMB and then RMB - changes inset ratio of extrusion MMB is beveling, , MMB and then RMB - changes bevel subdivisions RMB is insetting tool can also work in supra mode if you hotkey the tool I've used it to model few production objects and it's pretty useful.

Developed with the interactive tool SDK. See Piotrek's video for a quick introduction

local backup: quickextrude_0.2.xsiaddon (June 2013) pmQuickExtrude2012.xsiaddon (older but SI 2012 compatible version) quickextrude_src.rar

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Re: quickinset

Post by Memag » 25 Aug 2011, 22:52

throne@inbox.com wrote:Why not use a combintion of alt, ctrl and shift like 3ds max ?
Also the next advantage pack is going to contain normals extrude in ICE format, as independent tool so i guess you should totally include it in your next release.

P.S, you should also create a set of tools like swiftloop and other bunch of stuff, you will totally make every modeler not just comfortable, but more like happy.

Please, no.
I think origin moved away from using too much shortcuts. And as far as tool complexity goes for now, modifier keys are not needed.
Maybe you should get comfortable with using mouse buttons, as many tools in SI work that way. Even manipulation can be totally more pleasant that way.
What is "swift loop"? Is it like, "split edge tool" with middle mouse click, in Softimage?

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Re: quickinset

Post by origin » 25 Aug 2011, 23:13

Judging from videos extrude normal is regular OP, not ice-one. I will wait for SAP and will see if it's okay for interactive tool.

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Re: quickinset

Post by Memag » 26 Aug 2011, 00:25

throne@inbox.com wrote: Swiftloop is exactly like that with a few additions like the ability to create a edge following the curvature by just holding shift, but if Origin is going the road of unified tools i think he should include stuff like cut with split edge in the same tool.
But what i really meant is we need more tools like that, 3ds max has tools that creates polygons, bridges, and removing polies all under the same tool.

also why not alt+ctrl+shift ? this method can give you up to 8 different behaviors under the same keybind. but thats just my opinion, anyway...
Split loop with curvature preservation will be added in SAP ("add smooth edge loop").



As for modifier keys, I am used to Silo and it's mouse customization, so this workflow seems best for me.
Alas, you can have 24 different behaviors with three mouse buttons and modifiers
the problem is some stuff in SI is hard coded, as origin mentioned in one of the former posts.

SI and max are different animals, you will miss some features, others will be godsend.

In the end I am very happy to see modeling updates.
QuickInset makes that warm stomach feeling, just like Tweak Tool did back in v5.

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Re: quickinset

Post by Memag » 26 Aug 2011, 00:43

throne@inbox.com wrote:3ds max has tools that creates polygons, bridges, and removing polies all under the same tool.
What the hell is that and how does it function?
Tool or tools? AFAIC, SI bridge creates polygons, bridges them and removes the redundant ones.

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Re: quickinset

Post by Memag » 26 Aug 2011, 01:42

Something like "add/edit poly tool" + duplicate , and optional "shrink wrap" on top, right?
And "delete objects tool" (backspace over here), for deleting arbitrary components.

Seems doable in SI as it is.

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Re: quickinset

Post by scaron » 26 Aug 2011, 20:06

Throneinc wrote:
Memag wrote:Something like "add/edit poly tool" + duplicate , and optional "shrink wrap" on top, right?
And "delete objects tool" (backspace over here), for deleting arbitrary components.

Seems doable in SI as it is.
i have no doubt if its doable or not, the question is how fast i can do it, thats what i "Think" should be improved in general, the speed factor.
i think memag means its doable with the new tool sdk? the tool sdk should open up a lot of new customizations, like...

Ahmidou's LivePaint (sculpting) and his viewport trajectory editing tool he showed (http://www.vimeo.com/20538565)
a grease pencil
a tape measure ( which i am developing ) https://github.com/caron/TapeMeasure
sketch modeling a la silo and more recently http://www.bsurfaces.info/

exciting stuff imo!

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Re: quickinset

Post by Chris_TC » 26 Aug 2011, 22:47

Throneinc wrote:all under the same tool, named "extend", Creates the polygon just like create polygon tool, connects/bridge however you call it between 2 edges with a polygon, it can also delete a polygon all of that by just changing the modifier key, thats the kind of organization i would like to see in SI
I'm not a fan of stuffing a ton of functions into one tool. Using the three mouse buttons along with the status bar tool tip is fine. But once you have to start remembering Alt, Ctrl or Shift combinations I prefer a separate tool. Chances are I don't need to use the exposed tools in immediate succession anyway, so combining them is often pointless.

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Re: quickinset

Post by origin » 27 Aug 2011, 13:07

to be honest

having bevel, extrude and inset in single tool is quite logical.
but adding some more feature, more key combinations will also make tool more confusing.

Now I'm Max user for 10 years now but I prefer modeling in XSI ALOT.
The only thing xsi lacks of is more tools that fit xsis genius workflow :)

I will wait with releasing final version of my tool, hoping SAP will include source code for new split edge tool.

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Re: quickinset

Post by Chris_TC » 27 Aug 2011, 13:42

I wasn't knocking your tool by the way, I think it looks great. And having additional tools available to choose from is a great thing.

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Re: quickinset

Post by Ahmidou » 27 Aug 2011, 16:53

it will! ;)
origin wrote:to be honest

having bevel, extrude and inset in single tool is quite logical.
but adding some more feature, more key combinations will also make tool more confusing.

Now I'm Max user for 10 years now but I prefer modeling in XSI ALOT.
The only thing xsi lacks of is more tools that fit xsis genius workflow :)

I will wait with releasing final version of my tool, hoping SAP will include source code for new split edge tool.

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Re: quickinset

Post by origin » 27 Aug 2011, 22:52

2008. Few months ago I tried 2010 but had alot of errors so I gave up.

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Re: quickinset

Post by origin » 28 Aug 2011, 01:01

You need to add text opengl32.lib in project->(projectname) properities->configuration properties->linker->additional dependencies

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Re: quickinset

Post by calmasacow » 29 Aug 2011, 19:24

How does the bevel work. I'm using it with the 2012 SP1 on x64 and I cannot get the Bevel to work what are the keys?

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Re: quickinset

Post by Memag » 29 Aug 2011, 19:33

calmasacow wrote:How does the bevel work. I'm using it with the 2012 SP1 on x64 and I cannot get the Bevel to work what are the keys?
There is no "bevel" in current build.
Only Origin can use it, for now.

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Re: quickinset

Post by calmasacow » 29 Aug 2011, 21:25

Boo this man! :-o

Just kidding. I can't wait to see this. I hope it gets released quick after SAP comes out.

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Re: quickinset

Post by scaron » 04 Sep 2011, 03:22

Throneinc wrote:i just confirmed that all the new 2012.5 modeling tools are in ICE format, just a headsup.
this is not true, i believe its half and half. thickness and cap hole are ICE modeling. smooth edge loop and extrude along normal are traditional operators.

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